Chapters 19-20 ML, Juliette, Kate Broc

                                                            Chapters 19 and 20

Test on Wednesday!!

Guest from Quinn on Monday

REREAD CHAPTER 20!!!!

Was this a feminist novel or not?

What were we supposed to learn from Janie’s story

General Reactions to the end-

·      Ended and rapped up nicely

·      “soul crawled in to meet her”

o   finally accepted herself by herself, no need for anyone else

·      Totally forgot that it was framed

How did her spirituality evolve?

·      She finally accepted who she was

·      Janie accepts that death is inevitable

o   Maturity evolves—asks WHY does it happen?

How did God/Death try to punish them for seeing?

·      Eyes were open, they died with their eyes open

·      Inappropriate respect for God and Death

o   Tried to find too many answers

o   Tower of Babble.

Gossip Motif

·      Janie doesn’t want people gossiping and talking about her even though she has evolved.

·      “Their tongues were cocked and loaded, the only real weapon left to weak folks” (186).

·      “It was not death she feared. It was misunderstanding” (188).

Quotations

·      “God made it so you spent yo ole age first wid somebody else, and saved up yo young girl days to spend wid me” (181).

o   Hurston’s view on youth?-

§  A mindset- age/youth is dependent on who you are with

Debate Time!

Feminist Side-

·      Not common for women to stand up for themselves during the time period

·      She outlives all of her husbands and virtually have no faults except for her beauty.

·      Stands up for herself against Logan (pg 31) and against Jody (pg 79).

o   “When you pull down yo britches you look like da change of life”

Non Feminist Side-

·      She only wore blue because TC liked her in it

o   Identity changes every time she has a new realationship

o   Depends on a man to identify herself

o   Goes with the flow- male voice

·      Janie was never on a lower then men, never higher then men.

o   She thought she was equal but no she never really was

·      TC beat her up, never raised her hand against him

·      Pg 71- men have to speak for women because they have no brain

·      TC posses Jaine- got her from a house- uses possessive diction

·      Was originally hiding from Jody, had to crawl away from him

o   Abuse

·      Relationship with TC was more detrimental than reviving.

Questions

How would a woman’s dreams be attained if it was not a feminist novel?

·      Women’s dreams change with surroundings and she must conform,

o   She must shoot her dream (TC), relies on other people for happiness

If Janie had such a voice in her marriage why would she run away?

End Debate

3 Minute Supplemental Teaching

Page 193 last 4 sentences- allusion to Hindu Indra’s Net

Process of reflection is infinite.

Interconnectedness of all things

·      When any jewel is touched, so is every other jewel in the net- the brightening of one jewel brightens all other jewels

However, there is a lack of individuality-

·      Every node or individual reflects the surrounding nodes or individuals – represents mirror like nature of mind.

Chapters 14-17 (Knessy, Ardent, Awalt)

Chapter 14

• Tea Cake teaches Janie how to shoot
• Ironic-She shoots Tea Cake in the end 
• Contrast-societal views 
• vs. Janie
• Clarity in seeing her grow through others
• Janie-less attached, does not care what people think
• People pleaser-doesn’t care

Chapter 15

She slaps him //

• Discovers more about her relationship with herself
• Reversed in her relationships 
• Older-Younger 
• Different: Janie not feeding in to it. Tea Cake was feeding into it
• Words aren’t good enough to get point across 
• Jody beating Janie 

Chapter 16

• Race-major part do society 
• Since there is a majority, they need to embrace it 
• “God accepts blood”
• God in heaven-Give wine to blood + blood to master
• Real God is White

Chapter 17

He attacks her //

• It is okay that Tea Cake hit her
• Possessive love
• Relationship nanny didn’t want becoming the ones that Janie has
• Normality 
• Woman dreams-adjusting to fit reality
• Tea Cake relationship most suppression
• Balance-Reasons to stay
• Inner Conflict
• Humanizing relationships

Water

• Pg. 166-before Tea Cake saves Janie he waits because he hates the water 
• Hesitant like Janie in the beginning of love 
• Emotional waters

Wind

• Pg. 161-wind looses his chains
• Foreshadowing
• Janie lets her suppression go with new marriage

Lake

• -Pg. 158 lake is Janie’s love
• Janie can love Tea Cake whole heartedly
• Monster-Lake
• Janie lake and Tea Cake the wind?
• When together brings chaos when apart good

Storm:

• Title in chapter while watching strom
• Strom=God’s judgement 
• Race does not matter 
• Janie’s awakening
• Nature’s power>human
• Pg.166 “common danger makes common friends”
• Race  
• Similar to folktale with animals and strom
• Hurston’s anthropologist background

1-17-13 TEWWG

Chapters 10-13 

Chap 10:

The Ball Game- represents Town unity/how Janie and Tea Cake don't quite fit in.

Tea Cake- youthful, very humorous (except for page 95), mysterious, unconventional view to life. 

Motifs: self-expression, economic class, dreams. 

Later in chapter focuses on Tea Cake/ Janie interactions, she gradually releases. 

Chap 11:

bonds with Tea Cake- indulges (new experiences)

rebirth

loves her for herself 

hair- dandrift=affection (pg 103)

Hurston- anthropology work- primal life- growing affection

Chap 12:

-tells phoebe she's running off

-blue (pg 110,113) 

-not following 'mourning rules'  

-how is Tea Cake different from Jody? 

^Is it because he really cares for her and her wishes, unlike Jody. 

-class issues 

^Pheobe discusses (pg 112) Janie should not be with TC because he is in the lower class, who Jody should not want her to associate with. 

female dreams: Pheobe tries to ground Jamie when she is in love with female realism. Jamie is in a male dream because she thinks her marriage will be perfect (example 113). Phoebe describes from female. 

Chapter 13:

-running away with TC

-Color Blue: her rebirth 

-Janie wants to forget her past

-Mrs. Tyler: struggling with her age and self image

-Pg 20: dialect has appeared into narration

-class issues: struggling with equality in relationship. 

-Did activity answering questions about books and each group stating what their opinion was. 

1/16 Notes

-Read packet by next wed. and make questions

-Imagery Paper
-is experience connected to imagery
-parallelism in sentence structure
-thesis with 3 ideas
-70 (image) / 30 (experience)
-at least 3 senses

-Poetic Style in Paper
-easier to pick up on the emotions they were trying to portray and gives you a range for what you are trying to discuss
-easier to communicate with images with complicated ideas
-allowed for a depth in the paper through the imagery
-was frustrating when the images are repeating and you want them to vary or the exact emotion
-you can understand more in TEWWG because of the imagery, even if you hadn’t had the life experiences yet
-”mind pictures” are worth 1000 words
-hard to maintain your story to the image without stretching
-explores past basic emotions
-less stereotyped

TEWWG Lesson

-Page 10-11
-experience and then blossoming imagery - puberty, “buds”, “blossoms”, “snowy virginity of bloom”, really she is talking about flowers but metaphorically she can be talking about a developing maturity
-the feeling has been there forever “forgotten flute song”, but now it is coming up in her life
-movement from body terms to tree terms
-Deep images and words
-This page is not just an image - there is flower diction but also sexual diction
-Final connection is to a marriage, natural cycle to a bigger concept
-Janie has her sexual awakening under the tree, literally, new feelings and thoughts

-Imagery in ch. 4-9 about Janie and Jody

January 14, Quinn, Catherine, and Sharon Notes

Chapter 5

• Pg 50-”Basket full of feelings”
• Power goes to those who take and not deserve
• Didn’t know anything different
• Paradox cycle, shaped by expectations--contribute to them
• Influence/ power over
• Town light shining  
• Light=eyes of God, he is watching over bearing
• Lamppost-Showed existence wasn’t anything before Jody
• Christianity-God & Masculine

Chapter 6

• Quick change of judgement (mule & woman) 
• Jokes and games, porch=human nature
• Conformity, follows Jody the mayor
• Climb later to top of the ladder to put others down to make yourself better
• Doesn’t talk much-voice still lost
• Deserves better

Chapter 7

• Refusing to acknowledge Jody 
• Tricked her? 
• Honeymoon phase ended-shattering glass
• 5 signs of abusive relationship
• Jody-similar to Nanny? 
• Protected her, look like Nanny didn’t listen 

Chapter 8/9

• Growing older + intelligent = maturity
• Women not allowed jealousy but man allowed
• Whenever Janie speaks out to someone that person dies
• People get hurt when she asserts her independence 
• Is not a feminist novel 
• Her attempts to independence fails 
• Independence bad? Or good

Notes: How It Feels to Be Colored Me

How It Feels to Be Colored Me                                                           11 January 2013

·      Paints jazz in a very savage manner (tone)

o   Renaissance artists trying to get away from animalistic view

o   Reinforcing racism

·      Hurston reminds us of Janie

o   Recognition of colored self

§  Seeing a picture/hearing yourself

o   Finding identity through voice (power and silence)  

o   Identity by hair

§  Racial genes: noticing it because it’s different

§  Identifies her as a woman and a biracial

·      Thought she was white, until she finds out she’s not

·      People in Eatonville classify her as not black

·      What does she identify as? Does she have a choice?

·      “I have no race, I am me”

o   Labels lose identity OR strengthen

§  In the minority? Fitting in one place or another?

§  Gender/biological sex is a continuum

·      Think of a time you were in a minority

o   Did you sensor yourself? What would you say? What would you keep to yourself? Edit outer behavior?

o   Society cannot sensor your thoughts

§  Me that is colorless (label)

§  Me that is religion-less (label)

§  “I am me.” (no label)

·      Don’t need to explain or label

·      Title

o   It’s not about being able to label

o   The purpose is to recognize labels and that they do not necessarily make anyone similar or different on the inside

o   We exist in an outer superficial world, but we cannot asses the mind and the thoughts of people based on labels that society puts upon them

o   Takes a deep conversation to understand

§  Removes “us” from us

o   Willingness to wrestle with inner thoughts and opinions

January 10th TEWWG Presentation

Jillian, Simi, Kaitlin Presentation

Chapters 2-4

PLAN:

• Summary and Important Quotations

• Real world aspects activity

Quotation:

1. Chapter 2, pg. 8 - "Janie saw her life like a great tree.."
1. Tree is her life
2. Dawn is beginning, discovers sexuality under tree, mention to blooming and bee paragraph
3. Doom is end, no love for Logan, doesn't want to be the woman Nanny says she is, really doesn't want to grow up

2. Chapter 2, pg. 20 - "Put me down easy, Janie, Ah'm a cracked plate." Nanny
1. Nanny says to Janie
2. Guilt Janie
3. Wants to protect her but slaps Janie, contradicting, emotions and physical
4. Wants what is best for Janie, Janie doesn't want to disappoint

3. Chapter 3, pg. 21 - "There are years that ask questions and years that answer"
1. Does love come with marriage?
2. Learns with Logan it doesn't
3. Becomes a woman through having her dreams crushed
4. No emotion when nanny dies - resentful so doesn't grieve?
5.  Nanny should tell Janie her wishes, not just God

4. Chapter 4, pg. - 26 "Long before the year was up, Janie noticed that her husband had stopped talking in rhymes"
1. Begins chapter with no love, matured, out of "honeymoon phase"
2. Beginning of chapters have changed from fantasies to realities
3. "Dreams of women change"
4. Has Janie changed?
5. Loves changes from physical, "Dream love"  to protective
6. Relationship with Logan and Nanny is the same - very short
7. Joe Starks - new comes along,  cute vs. Logan - dirty, but never lied (connect to feet)

Article Activity:

1. Article 1 - NRA Gun control
1. Nanny - very opposed to adding more guns OR could support because of added protection of self and Janie
2. Janie - Up in the air?, submissive personality, guns too much for her, will develop more confidence leading to greater opinion

2. Article 2 - BBC harsh treatment of women in India
1. Nanny - can relate to article because of her and her daughter's rape and life, supports marriage to protect Janie
2. Janie - wants her freedom and independence, subconsciously blocks out bad things ie. Possibility of death and rape, "ignorance is bliss", you could still be assaulted although, lowest age of assault is reproductive age - thinks she can delay protection for awhile

3. Article 3 - CNN Obama's cabinet all men
1. Nanny -accepts gender inequality, wouldn't be bothered by this
2. Janie - wouldn't be opinionated, not a feminist, wants love more than power